Started watching YouTube vids and picked up the base line Lansky kit with the rods at Fin Feather and Fur. Within 20 minutes had a respectable edge back on my Kershaw Chill and worked though my other EDC blades and my Mora and Schrade fixed blades. I think I may just try picking up one of the angle guides you clamp on an using my stone for some of the other larger blades the Lansky is pretty small.